Monday June 10th, 10.14 am
His movements were slow, every small calculation visible in the adjustments and readjustments he made lowering himself into the chair. Three hidden cameras recorded what Harry did.
The room was small and regular, like a box. The walls were blank and a table sat in the centre with two chairs facing each other. In one chair sat a man wearing a white coat looking as though he was reading a manilla file of loose papers. The white of his coat smelled of apples and Harry heard the single note of a struck bell when he looked at the man.
The earth spins through space and around the sun. The speed of its movement is something astounding and yet we have no sense of moving. Harry remembers as a child sitting in the back seat of his father’s car and waiting for the lights to change, and the car edging forward, so slow and so little that it might have been missed, except that he could feel the movement, the whole world sliding past his window.
Harry sat in silence, waiting for the other man to speak.
‘Can you tell me your name?’
It was a silly question. The name on the file was what the man wanted Harry to say. He’d been asked the ques tion before. It made no sense to keep asking it.
‘My name is Harry,’ he said.
The man ticked a box on a sheet of paper.
‘And do you know what day it is?’
Harry knew. It was Monday. He could tell from the smell. Mondays smell of burnt toast. He didn’t know why that was.
‘It’s Monday,’ said Harry.
Even his words came out slow, like they were new and he was saying them for the first time, not certain that the sound they might make would be the right sound.
‘I know it’s Monday. I can smell burnt toast.’
The man in white tried to hide his surprise. Harry noticed the arching of one eyebrow and knew he could not smel l anything.
‘Why burnt toast?’
Harry had no answer to the question so stayed silent.
The man in white gave Harry a minute to reply, then wrote something on the piece of paper.
Harry waited.
‘Do you know where you are, Harry?’
He could hear something red, and jangling like dropped change, and that made him think he might be in a school or an insurance office.
If you put a cold hand into a basin of tap water it will feel warm. Put a warm hand into the same water and it feels cold. Harry thought he had read that somewhere, or had heard someone explain it to him. What he wasn’t told was that the smell stayed the same, that water smelled of green.
‘Do you know where you are, Harry?’ said the man again.
Harry shook his head.
‘Do you know why you are here?’
He didn’t know. Nobody had said and Harry hadn’t asked.
‘Can you remember what happened before you came here?’
Harry could remember breakfast, sitting on a metal-framed chair in a room where everyone wore blue, except the women and one man. There was a woman there who smelled of storms and everything around her was loud music and the music tasted of sour fruit. He liked her. She was kind to him. He never could remember her name, so had written it on the inside of his wrist in case he ever needed it. He looked at it now. Her name was Caroline.
‘My name is Harry,’ he said. ‘Her name is Caroline.’
‘Who is Caroline?’ said the man.
Harry could see her when he closed his eyes, could smell the storm and hear the music and taste the sharpness of lemons or grapefruits. That was Caroline. But he didn’t know how to say this to the man in white.
‘Mondays smell of burnt toast.’
‘Do you know where you are, Harry?’
Harry nodded. It was what he thought the man wanted.
On one of the screens in the next room Harry’s face was visible in close-up. He looked frightened and lost, his eyes glassy and staring.
Saturday June 8th, 10.02 am
Harry sat up in bed. It was not his bed. He knew that right away. There were wasps caught in the folds of the sheets. He could hear their angry buzzing, even when unpicking the folds he could not see them.
‘Good morning, Harry.’
He recognised the music she brought into the room, and underneath the music a growling like thunder – he recognised that too, and the sour citrus taste left on his tongue. He checked his wrist.
‘Good morning, Caroline,’ he said.
She pulled back the curtains and let in the sun. It hurt his eyes at first and the hurt was something he remembered, from somewhere.
‘And what day is it today?’ said Caroline.
She moved to behind him, gently pushed him forward and punched air into his pillows.
‘It is Saturday. Saturdays are always orange and smell of piss.’
‘Don’t you like Saturdays then?’ she said, peeling back the sheets of his bed.
‘Liking Saturdays has nothing to do with their colour or their smell.’
There were plasters on the ends of all his fingers. He didn’t know when that had happened.
‘Do you know where you are, Harry?’
He didn’t know that either.
Wednesday June 5th, 10.09 am
Harry lay quite still. He didn’t know he was Harry, not till later. His thoughts swam in and out of each other and the smell of apples hung in the air. He had picked apples one summer, with his mother. They were paid for each wicker basket they filled. He collected the apples that weighed down the lower branches and his mother climbed the ladder, so high he couldn’t see her sometimes. They got to take apples home with them, too, at the end of each day. So many apples. They kept them wrapped in paper and straw, stored them in cardboard boxes in the dark under the stairs. Sometimes he would shut himself in there just to be with the smell.
Wednesday, he thought.
There was a woman by his bed. Sitting as still as a picture, a magazine open on her lap. Her hair was the colour of wood with the bark peeled back, and he felt cold watching her.
She looked up and was surprised to see him awake.
‘Harry?’ she said.
It was a question. He wasn’t sure of the answer. The ends of his fingers burned.
‘Harry,’ she said again.
He didn’t know who she was, but something told him he should. The smell was familiar and she was grey, like memories can be grey sometimes.
He thought of the moon landing he had watched with his father, the slow moving spacemen, and slow talking too. One giant step. Only they were small and grey on the screen, the steps and the men. And these days everyone saying they were not real, pointing to the shadows and saying they could not be. And everything a staged set.
‘Harry, it’s me. It’s Julie.’
Julie smelled of dust. That was what he recognised. Julie smelled of dust. Like the grey that is laid on things when they are left untouched for a long time. Julie smelled of dust, he would have to remember that.
She took his hand in hers, not making contact with the plastered ends of his fingers, just holding the palm, loose, and stroking the back.
‘It’s Julie.’
A woman who said her name was Caroline took his temperature and recorded it on a chart at the end of his bed. She offered to bring Julie tea and asked him if he wanted some, too.
‘Would you like some tea, Harry?’
He was Harry. He knew that now.
He nodded his head. At least he tried to.
Monday June 3rd, 10.06 am
The air tasted of silver, and fizzed on his tongue like lemonade. His eyes were closed and he could hear movement around him and the regular sound of machines counting out the seconds. There was music underneath everything, the sound of one song playing over and over, not the words, just the tune. He could smell burnt toast. It was a familiar smell. He thought it must be Monday, and didn’t know why he thought that.
Saturday June 1st, 10.01 am
He was a shape in the bed. Without definition. A colour and a smell more than a shape. The smell of toilets that aren’t clean and the colour of marigolds. And a feeling. He was a feeling, too. Just the one sensation. And it was pain. A pulsing pain. That was everything he was, and everything he had been for as long as he could remember. And he didn’t know how long that was.
Thursday May 30th 10.10 am
They did not know who he was at first. A man found in a field. Unconscious. His clothes burned to his skin and his hair singed and the ends of his fingers dripping blood from open cuts. He was strapped to a gurney, tubes and wires keeping him alive, and the scream of sirens still ringing in everyone’s ears.
There was a picture in his wallet, the plastic melted a little and the picture too. His ID said his name was Harry and so that is what they began th eir sentences with. ‘Harry can you hear me?’ ‘Harry, you have been hurt.’ ‘Harry, do you know what happened? Can you squeeze my hand? Can you blink?’
His black blank stare was all there was.
Thursday May 30th, 4.00 am
Harry woke up alone. Julie was gone to her mother’s. They’d fought again and he didn’t know why, didn’t care either. He lay in th e dark, listening to the house shifting, the tiny creaks and groans as it stretched and flexed. The air felt thick, and warm. He kicked back th e covers and breathed deeply.
He got up from the bed and made his way through to the bathroom. The snap of the light was sharp and his eyes squinted against the sudden brightness. He looked at himself in the mirror. His skin was grey and his eyes, too. He stuck out his tongue. He didn’t know if it looked as it should.
Outside it was darker than dark, and the sky growled. Harry pulled on a shirt and walked into his pants. Then he lit a cigarette and went out onto the porch to smoke.
There was a storm coming. He could tell. The hairs on his arms stood up and he tasted metal or blood on his tongue.
He stepped down from the porch and onto the grass. It felt soft under his bare feet, and cool, and wet. But Harry didn0t really notice, was thinking of something else, lost in thought.
‘Maybe it is time,’ he said. He was not in the habit of speaking to himself. ‘Maybe it is time for a change, and Julie going is right and as it should be.’
He tried to remember what Julie had said. ‘It is over, what we had. Was over long before now.’ She’d been saying that a lot recently and a part of him knew she was right. ‘A new start. We need to let this go and move on.’ That’s what she had said. What she didn’t know was that he had already moved on.
He climbed the fence and wandered into the middle of the field. It was beginning to rain and his shirt stuck to his skin. He wiped his wet hair back from his eyes and looked up at the storm above him.
A decision was made then. He lifted his arms in celebration and called out her name.
Then there was only white, a seething hot white that reached down through him and made everything new, like a clean page.
Monday May 27th, 10.00 am
Her name was Marilyn. He said it over and over, tasting it, testing it.
‘Come for breakfast,’ she’d said. So he had, at ten o’clock prompt, knocking on her back door.
A bell chimed once when she opened the door, and once again when she closed it. The radio was playing, a song that he recognised. Marilyn was still in her dressing gown. It was white, like a nurse’s uniform or a doctor’s coat. He kissed her, and she smelled of apples. It was the shampoo that she used.
They had gone straight to her bed.
‘This is for real?’ she said.
Harry would have promised her the moon, the stars and everything in between.
‘This is more real than real,’ he said. It was a cute thing to say, even though it made no sen se, not really.
‘It’s just that things are moving pretty fast here,’ she said.
‘Not as fast as you think,’ said Harry. And he told Marilyn about the earth whizzing through space and no one ever noticing. She laughed.
‘You know what I mean,’ she said.
Her hand in his was cold. And then it was warm.
‘This is the start of something,’ he said. ‘It really is.’
Afterwards she had made toast and burned it.
‘From now on, Mondays will always smell of burnt toast,’ he declared.
Wednesday, 20 January 2010
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The characters are totally different. Aside from the opening hospital setting, the rest of the settings are different. The point of the story is different. The tone is different. The language is different.
ReplyDeleteThis is not simply a rewrite in my own words.
People will be quick to spot the similarities... but the differences are big.
I have blogged about this on my site.
What similarities, a hospital ward and a nurse? Get real! Two entirely different storys, the first was OK but Douglas's was better.
ReplyDeleteI do not know who William Shears is, but now Jane Smith of 'How Publishing Really Works' is saying he is me and fabricating some cock and bull story about William Shears and Douglas Bruton having the same IP address. That is complete and utter nonsense and the last gasp of a desperate woman. Read my recent blog post 'Fun With Nik and Jane' to know why this woman, who is now either wrong or telling lies, has reason to slap me, despite her public pretence to being fair.
ReplyDeleteIdeas are not copyright, is what Jane have said on her blog. She says they are fair game, in fact. All that cannnot be taken is the particular arrangement of the words. That's what Jane Smith has said.
Doug Cheadle's theft of my stories has been available for people to read for more than a week and a half. 250 visits have been recorded. Not one comment except mine and this William Shears. Wake up Jane. Wake up everyone and read my blog to see why Jane has every reason to want to slap me.
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If I had any doubts; which I didn't, they would have now all gone. Jane Smith has claimed that she has evidence that myself and Douglas share the same computer, when we don't even share the same country! I would say show this evidence Jane, but that would be pointless as she can't show what she can't possibly have!
ReplyDeleteI see that William Shears has posted more details on his profile. (why did I think you were a 'she', William?)
ReplyDeleteLook him up. He is from England. I am in Scotland.
Jane Smith lies. That should be shouted loud. If she has lied about this, then how many more lies are threaded through her accusations against me? This would be the point in a court of law where her entire testimony would be thrown out.
According to Sitemeter, the comments that Douglas Bruton and William Shears left on my own blog both came from someone using a BTCentralPlus internet connection, who was based in Edinburgh, using one computer with the IP address 86.131.241.
ReplyDeleteAfter I pointed this out on my blog Shears commented, insisting he was not the same person as Bruton. This comment also came from a BTCentralPlus account, but this time one based in Brentwood, Essex, with a different IP address: 217.44.136. At first I thought that I’d made a mistake and was just about to apologise when Bruton commented on my blog again–this time from the same IP address in Brentwood, Essex, which Shears had commented from.
I live in Sheffield, and when I visit my own blog from my own desktop computer, Sitemeter reflects that. But when I’m out and about and use my laptop and mobile connection, the IP address is naturally different–and my given location changes depending on which wireless connection I’m using. According to Sitemeter I’ve posted from Manchester, London, and Glasgow when I know I’ve just been down the road.
You can draw your own conclusions.
As for the rest of Bruton’s increasingly libellous comments: I’m not even going to address them. He won’t allow me to comment on his blog, he twists my words, and he misrepresents me at every turn. He’s a talented writer and I wish him the very best: but I don’t see the point in rehashing this very old, and very unsavoury story any more.
Douglas and William, you can agree all you want with each other, that doesn't mean that either of you are right. Douglas plagiarised Tania's story and should be contrite, not angry. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.
ReplyDeleteI noticed that William Shears had added some details to his profile: this happened after Jane Smith pointed out the similarities between Douglas and William's IP addresses on her own blog, I think (good catch, by the way, Jane). Until then, Shears's profile was as empty as Douglas's allegations against Jane Smith. I'm interested to know how and why someone with no prior history of blogging, or commenting on blogs, should suddenly sign up to a new blogger account and immediately start following Bruton round the blogosphere, backing him up and ridiculing everyone else. What's your motivation for this, William? Sounds a little suspicious to me.
I've now added Sitemeter to this blog so that everyone can play the "track Bruton" game. All you have to do is scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on that link to Sitemeter, which should display the statistics for this blog to anyone who cares to look. I bet you'll see a lot of visits from someone on that same BT connection that Jane described upstream.
I've noticed visits from BTCentralPlus on several of the places Douglas has visited over the weekend: they cycle through Edinburgh, Brentwood, Buxton and Antrim and my betting is that the BTCentralPlus account uses various different servers to connect to the internet, hence the differing IP addresses. That's pure speculation on my part, but it could be the case.
Jane, thanks for commenting here and for explaining what's been going on.
ReplyDeleteI consider some of Douglas Bruton's comments about you here and elsewhere to be libellous and actionable, and if you'd rather I'll delete the ones here rather than let them stand. I do have copies of them so if you want me to forward them to you let me know.
If Douglas has any sense he'll apologise as publically and profusely as he's libelled you. I think he owes Nik and Vanessa several apologies each, too. He needs to think carefully about how he's going to proceed now, because I'd have thought he's killed any chance he will ever have of getting an agent or a good publishing deal, or even a new job. I certainly wouldn't employ him if I came across any of his internet ranting. I doubt he realises how much damage he's done to himself over this.
Doug, I've looked at your Sitemeter log and see that of four visits since you installed it, two come from IP address 86.189.11 via an account with BTCentralPlus. Someone might be using a proxy server to change their IP address, although it can't hide their ISP details.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I think that the visitor who arrived at 10.35am did so having just signed out of his blogger account. Now, I wonder who might be signing out of a blogger account before directing their computer here? Any ideas?
Again a lot of speculation here and a lot of dirt smeared across my name. I repeat that I am not william shears, i do not know who he is and that this is all just smoke to obscure the facts.
ReplyDeleteMore than 310 views of the site and no one save yourselves (Doug and Jane) have supported the idea that I am a plagiarist. That is fact.
Maybe, just maybe, it is you who have got things wrong...
Douglas, that last comment of yours came from IP address 86.189.11 which doesn't prove a whole lot apart from the fact that either your connection changes your IP address frequently, or that you're now using a different computer.
ReplyDeleteYou make a big deal of the fact that this site has had over 310 views so far, but that no one has stepped in to denounce you as a plagiariser. There are two contributing factors to that.
The first is that, as I think Nik Perring has pointed out on his blog, people are probably wary of triggering an outburst from you on their own blog. I had this place set up to not allow anonymous comments (which is probably why you had to create your William Shears persona in order to comment in your own defense), so if anyone wanted to comment here, they would have had to do so publically, and verify at least some sort of ID. I've changed that now to allow anonymous comments, so if anyone does want to make a point without risking Trial-By-Douglas on their own blogs, they can now do so. But to avoid a slather of anonymous spammers taking over, I've switched on full comment moderation, so don't expect your comments to appear straight away, anyone. It might be a few days before I get back online so be patient.
Now onto the second reason: since I switched on Sitemeter yesterday, 28 visits have been paid to this blog. Of those 28 visits, 6 came from BTOpenWorld and 13 from BTCentralPlus. According to BT, someone with a BTCentralPlus account will appear on Sitemeter under either of those two names. So, out of 28 visits, 19 came from a BT account.
Now, Douglas, your "friend" William Shears said somewhere that it wasn't such a big deal, as BT is a very popular ISP. So to put that into some context I went over to Jane Smith's blog and looked at her Sitemeter statistics. Of the 40 most recent visitors to her blog, one came from BTOpenWorld and one from BTCentralPlus.
Bearing all that in mind I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of those 310 visits and counting came from you, Douglas.
I warn you now: I'm not going to approve many more of your lengthy, ranting comments here. You're not moving on, you're not adding anything to the discussion. All you're doing is bleating about how you've been wronged, and how everyone is being a big fat meanie to you, and how no one is clever enough to understand you or your brilliant writing. You've made your points, now don't make them again. If you have anything new to say then say it, otherwise keep quiet.
I subscribed to your comments some time ago but have not posted here before as I've watched Mr Bruton go on a posting spree and write all sorts of nasty things about other people on several blogs including his own and I didn't want him to pay my blog a visit and start on me. His stories look like plaguerism to me and I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him. Thanks for exposing his lies Mr Cheadle we all owe you a big vote of thanks.
ReplyDeleteI've no sympathy for Douglas Bruton. He clearly has appropriated other peoples' work as his own, and all his posts on his blog about how it's artistic licence are only him deluding himself.
ReplyDeleteI also believe that he's only posting up his Port Ferry pieces on his blog because he knows how it upsets Jane Smith. There's something very malicious about him posting them up for all to see. Unfortunately she has no recourse in copyright law. Co-written stories, based on characters living in one area, have been the staple of writing groups ever since I started writing many years ago, and is not a new idea. Nearly every writers' group has their own version of Coronation Street or Heartbeat or Eastenders. It's generally accepted that the characters belong to the writers who created them.
So now I've established I'm not a fan of Douglas Bruton, you probably won't like what else I've got to say.
Starting this blog does nothing to solve the problem, and strikes me as highly malicious, and libellous. You might argue that as it's true, it's not libel, but it can be libel if it's been shown that it's done only for malicious reasons. I think this blog is malicious, and whoever set it up has sadly deprived themselves of the moral high ground. You should have just let Douglas Bruton keep waffling on his blog. It told everyone everything they needed to know about the situation. Methinks he doth protest too much and all that.
IP addresses. It's very silly to get all het up about them, as they prove nothing, and to cite them and become obsessed over them is a pointless exercise and rather childish. It's also a form of bullying, as citing IP addresses is a common way on many forums of trying to stop people from posting in support of either side of the argument, just in case they're identified; a way of saying 'I'm only willing to listen to you if you agree with everything I say otherwise I know where you are...' What the hell do you expect to do with the IP addresses? Track people down to their front doors? That's deeply unsettling, and probably a form of stalking.
Sorry, but that's how I feel. I've posted anonymously because like many of the interested watchers of these events, I don't want it brought to my front door.
As far as I can see, neither side have covered themselves with glory over this. The only person who has kept a dignified silence since her initial post on the subject is Ms Hershman. Yet she's the one person in this whole sorry saga who has the most to complain about.
Barry
I have been watching this saga unfold like a slow motion car crash. I read the Hershman and Bruton stories months ago, and at the time (as now) there was no doubt in my mind that Bruton’s story owed far too much to Hershman’s. I am not a lawyer and can’t comment on whether it meets the legal test for plagiarism; but I’m clear in my mind that Douglas’s ‘borrowings’ were unethical.
ReplyDeleteI knew Douglas as part of an online writing group before the plagiarism issue blew up, and felt even then that he had some strange (to me) boundaries in his relationship to other writers’ work. Perhaps his behaviour has been not so much malicious as misguided.
I understand that Douglas genuinely feels that he has done nothing wrong, and is deeply hurt by comments made about him online. There is no pleasure in seeing someone destroyed so publically (even if they have largely been the author of their own demise).
Douglas, the other bloggers on this matter have let it slip from their front page weeks ago – you are keeping the issue alive through your blog. I suspect you feel if you persevere, ultimately opinion will turn in your favour. Please accept that this is not going to happen, and let the matter rest – for your own sake.
I also wonder if ‘Doug Cheadle’ would consider deleting this blog now those with an interest in the matter have had a chance to read Douglas’s stories. The title of the blog seems unnecessarily inflammatory to me, and the URL misleading.
When I first read about this story online I wondered if Douglas Bruton had really plagiarised anyone or if the people involved were all getting just a little bit hot under the collar about someone writing something which was better than theirs was.
ReplyDeleteNow I've read the stories I think they had a right to get upset. Even though Douglas Bruton doesn't seem to think he's done anything wrong his story is far too similar to Tania's to be acceptable. Writers should write new and original stuff, not filch stuff from their friends.
Doug Cheadle, well done you for having the guts to create this blog. Douglas Bruton has done wrong, and you've given us the chance to see it for ourselves.
Brian, thanks for that.
ReplyDeleteFirst, I think you're wrong about copyright law and collaborative stories: so long as they don't grant full rights to the anthology concerned, each writer retains the copyright to their own stories so yes, it is perfectly possible for Douglas to be infringing Jane Smith's copyright, or the copyright of the other writers who contributed to Greyling Bay by his use of the concept and the characters in his Port Brokeferry project. But my guess is that it's getting so few comments and so little recognition that she feels you're it's worth bothering about.
"Nearly every writers' group has their own version of Coronation Street or Heartbeat or Eastenders. It's generally accepted that the characters belong to the writers who created them."
Not the writers' group I belong to: I wonder where you're getting your information from? It's a rare thing in my experience.
IP addresses: you wrote, "What the hell do you expect to do with the IP addresses? Track people down to their front doors? That's deeply unsettling, and probably a form of stalking."
Either you have no idea what IP addresses are, or you're being deliberately provocative. IP addresses allow us to track individual computers, not individual people. There's no way that I know of to use an IP address to find out where someone lives without the help of their ISP and probably some legal involvement. But as you seem so willing to discuss IP addresses, let's have a look at yours: Sitemeter has it registered as 217.44.136, and apparently you're posting from Brentwood, in Essex.
I think you're busted, Brian/Douglas/William.
Emma, thanks for your comments.
ReplyDeleteI would gladly take this blog down were it not for one thing: Douglas Bruton has several libellous posts on his own blog, and he's been refusing to approve comments from people who have taken him to task over the matter. See this post of his in which he libels and insults Jane Smith and Nik Perring who both supported and helped him before his plagiarisms were revealed, and this one where he refers to a woman who mentored and supported him for a long period. Their only crimes are to have objected to his plagiarism: they've all allowed him to comment on their blogs, often at length, and it's wrong for him to deny them a similar right to reply on his own blog. Also consider this and this, contributions to his own Port Brokeferry project which he began when Jane Smith deleted his contributions to her eerily similar one called Greyling Bay. You'll notice that he has a character called Greyling in those last two contributions which can only have been done to make his point.
If Douglas were to open his blog up and allow the people he has maligned to have their right to reply, I'd consider taking this blog down. If he were to delete those unpleasant posts of his then I would do it. But if that happens, and he kicks off again with his libel and censorship, then this blog will resurface.
I think it says much more about you that you aren't willing to believe that anyone other than Douglas Bruton could find this whole thing very distasteful.
ReplyDeleteOne doesn't have to respect the man or his actions to find this blog and its owner sinister. Unless you are personally affected by his behaviour, then you have no valid reason for doing this.
If you are personally affected, at least have the balls to use your real name. That's assuming you've got any in the first place?
You're quite keen to know who everyone else who posts here is, and where they all are, to the point of intruding on their privacy. Who the hell are you? Where the hell are you?
A note to you all: I'm not going to approve any comments which are potentially libellous, or which are abusive or insulting, no matter how much I agree with your sentiments. Which is why most of you who commented within the last 24 hours or so are going to be disappointed.
ReplyDeleteDouglas, it's clear that you still don't believe you plagiarised Tania's or Auster's work. But a lot of people think that you did, and this disagreement is at the crux of this dispute.
I'd be very interested if you would define plagiarism for us. What constitutes plagiarism, in your view? Are there hard-and-fast rules, or is it more down to personal interpretation? And why do you think so many people consider your actions to be plagiarism despite your insistence that they aren't?
Here are a few links you might find useful in composing your reply.
The Wikipedia entry about plagiarism starts like this:
Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."
Suite 101 defines several different forms of plagiarism, including this one:
Putting one's name on something that's paraphrased. A paraphrase is a rewording of a phrase, sentence, or paragraph that essentially says the same things.
Dictionary.com provides this definition of plagiarism:
1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
2. something used and represented in this manner.
And Merriam-Webster defines it like this:
transitive verb
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive verb
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
— pla·gia·riz·er noun
I'll look forward to you explaining how the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work" is considered plagiarism except when you do it.
OK, Doug Cheadle, I have added your comment to my site. Now let's see if you do the same with mine.
ReplyDeleteI have been doing some reading on copyright and intellectual property law. You have called on me to define what I think plagiarism is. Lawyers use up lots of court time and lots of public and private money debating this issue in individual cases, so to expect me to offer a hard and fast definition for us all to agree on seems to me to be unrealistic. However, I have been on The Copyright Licensing Agency's web page and I found this in their definition of what is copyright:
"There is no need in the UK to register copyright. When an idea is committed to paper or another fixed form, it can be protected by copyright. It is the expression of the idea that is protected and not the idea itself. People cannot be stopped from borrowing an idea or producing something similar but can be stopped from copying."
This is precisely what I have been arguing throughout all this plagiarism nonsense. It is what Jane Smith said in an early post on her own blog 'How Publishing Really Works'. If we accept the truth of this, and all its implications, then everything Jane has said and done against me, and all you have done here, and Vanessa and all the others, is malicious and cruel. And an argument against trial by internet.
Unpleasant. Creepy. Vain. Three words that apply to Douglas. I have seen him creep and slither around writers while cherry-picking the best to copy. What worries me most is that he also teaches young minds. I am dismayed that he has the potential to steal from them too. He reminds me of the strange friend, the one who starts copying your clothes, then mannerisms...until they become you by osmosis. Yet he is maudlin, sentimental and manipulative in his writing...while saying some wicked things about people who have in the past attempted to help him.
ReplyDeleteThere is no pleasure in reading anything of Mr Bruton's any more. There certainly is no pleasure reading his rants. Whatever he thinks, his words do not make the world a better place...that is simply a Messiah complex.
I have no idea who Doug Cheadle is.....but I think this blog has been created out of anger, out of a sense of wrongness done.
I have worked with this man and seen his strange absorbing of other people's ideas...I feel that it is a compulsion, like Kleptomania. Not once has he been humble in this when being confronted with quite obvious plagiarism but indeed promotes himself as a great writer and a man of talent. Alas, his writing is not so magnificent that it can be forgiven for lacking originality.
I can read Tania Hershmann and feel the heart of the woman. I can read Vanessa Gebbie and see a real sense of her feeling the characters, the characters that are hers alone. But with Mr Bruton is also feels so false, as I said so maudlin.
I am sad about this affair but the anger rises up too, especially when he attacks someone like Nik Perring, who is a hundred times the man he could ever be.
Anonymous (8 February) wrote, "I think it says much more about you that you aren't willing to believe that anyone other than Douglas Bruton could find this whole thing very distasteful."
ReplyDeleteI don't know where you got that idea from. I find this whole episode very distasteful indeed. More than distasteful, in fact. Plagiarism is vile, as are the people who defend and promote it.
"One doesn't have to respect the man or his actions to find this blog and its owner sinister. Unless you are personally affected by his behaviour, then you have no valid reason for doing this."
Everyone who has ever written anything creatively is affected by plagiarism, whether directly or indirectly.
And I find it ironic that you lecture me on the need to use my real name, but post anonymously. Balls, indeed.
Anon (9 February),
ReplyDeleteI appreciate that you're no fan of Douglas Bruton but I'd also appreciate it if in the future you didn't call him, or anyone else, names. It's rude, and (despite all that has happened) uncalled for. It weakens your argument considerably, and because of it I nearly didn't approve your comment to appear here.
What swung me in your favour was that you've expressed what several other people have said, but in far stronger terms than you used: I couldn't approve their comments, I have only approved yours with considerable misgivings, but I won't approve anything else which slings mud, no matter how well-reasoned the rest of the argument is.
Douglas Bruton quoted:
ReplyDelete"There is no need in the UK to register copyright. When an idea is committed to paper or another fixed form, it can be protected by copyright. It is the expression of the idea that is protected and not the idea itself. People cannot be stopped from borrowing an idea or producing something similar but can be stopped from copying."
Douglas, if you quote other people's work you must attribute it. The quote Douglas provided came from the Copyright Licensing Agency website.
One part of that quote jumps out at me:
"It is the expression of the idea that is protected and not the idea itself."
That's the whole point, Douglas. The expression of an idea is protected, not the idea itself. Tania's idea was to write a story about a man who got hit by lightning. She chose to express that idea by writing in reverse chronology; by having her main character lose his memory because of the lightning strike; by starting the story with him waking up in hospital; by juxtaposing the promise of a new relationship against his tragedy. All those things are part of how she expressed her central idea; and you used all of them.
If it's any consolation I don't think you did this deliberately: I think you really didn't understand the full meaning of plagiarism before all this blew up. I'm not sure you still do, because you keep on insisting you didn't plagiarise anyone. That's reinforced in this part of your comment,
"This is precisely what I have been arguing throughout all this plagiarism nonsense. It is what Jane Smith said in an early post on her own blog 'How Publishing Really Works'."
I've noticed you referring to Jane's posts before. Here’s a link to her piece "Copyright: A Brief Introduction", in which she writes,
"The upshot is that you can't protect your idea unless you actually write it. Then your specific arrangement of words and the various specific ways you've expressed your idea, such as your structure, detail and characterisation (which together constitute the story you've written) will be protected, but the idea (the storyline) will not be, as ideas are fair game."
And here is a link to Jane's blog post "Plagiarism" in which she writes,
"It is not acceptable for a writer to take another writer’s work and pass it off as their own. It’s no defence if you put the piece through a cursory rewrite; nor is being unaware of the plagiarism laws. That’s plagiarism, and publishers and courts take a very dim view of it."
I don't think either of those pieces support your argument that you didn't plagiarise: they do the opposite, actually.
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ReplyDeleteDouglas, earlier I offered to take down this blog if you took down some of your own blog posts and granted people the right to comment on your blog. Instead you say this:
"If we accept the truth of this, and all its implications, then everything Jane has said and done against me, and all you have done here, and Vanessa and all the others, is malicious and cruel. And an argument against trial by internet."
To give you your due you have approved the comment I left on your blog: but you have responded to it with more of your allegations about other people; and far from taking down any of your more worrying posts, you've made a whole new one.
You aren't doing yourself any favours. Maligning the people who have discussed your plagiarism doesn't cancel out their views, it just shows that you're suffering from a monumental case of sour grapes.
And you've not answered the questions I asked earlier, so I'll repeat them:
1) What constitutes plagiarism, in your view?
2) I'll look forward to you explaining how the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work" is considered plagiarism except when you do it.
I'm going away for ten days or so, so don't expect me to approve any more comments here soon. And Douglas, I'm not going to approve any more of your comments here until you respond to those two points above, in your own words, and without directing any more nastiness at anyone else.
I have a feeling that this might be the very last comment ever made on this blog.
Hi 'Doug' - I suppose unlike you I don't feel Douglas's blog needs any further rebuttal. It has done its own job too well: Douglas betrays himself with every word he writes.
ReplyDeleteI suspect we are all unreliable narrators of our own lives, but in some cases perhaps more so than others.
For what it's worth, I think the most perceptive post on this entire topic is the one made by Anonymous above (the one ending 'the man he could ever be'). But the man's reputation is in ruins. Can't we leave it at that?
I was away a bit longer than I expected, and in that time Douglas has made one more comment here, in which he once more attacks Jane Smith. He made no attempt to answer my questions, though.
ReplyDeleteDouglas, I'm trying to help you here, although you probably won't believe me. I really am trying to give you a chance to clear all this up, so that you and all those other people who disagree with you can reach an understanding. Arbitration, if you like.
What I'd really like you to do is to stop telling us you're not guilty of plagiarism (because your arguments haven't worked so far, have they?) and instead explain what you think plagiarism is, and why your use of other writers' work doesn't count as plagiarism. Please do this without misinterpreting what other people have to say about it; and what ever you do stop making any more attacks on people because all you're doing is making yourself look spiteful, which weakens your own argument.
So, here are my questions for a third time.
1) What constitutes plagiarism, in your view?
2) I'll look forward to you explaining how the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work" is considered plagiarism except when you do it.
And for the last time, Douglas, I'm not going to approve any more of your comments here until you respond to those two points above, in your own words, and without directing any more nastiness at anyone else. This is your last chance. Please make good use of it.
Doug
ReplyDeletePeople in this long drawn out debate have said before that they are trying to help me, when in reality that have been only trying to trip me up and then do me more harm. And I have been naive in again and again trusting them.
This I will try one more time.
Your question is not an easy one. Certainly not as easy as others have thought with their kneejerk condemnation of me. That’s one reason why lawyers, trained to deal with these cases, spend many hours in publicly debating the matter with regard to specific cases. Nevertheless I will try to give some answer to your question.
I think there are obvious examples of plagiarism where chunks of one writer’s work have been lifted wholesale and used in another’s work. I am not sure what I really feel about this, though it has never been anything I have been tempted to do.
I think Shakespeare using other sources (texts) to write Romeo and Juliet, keeping pretty closely to the original story with many of the very same characters, is not plagiarism. He has taken material and used his own language, and added something vital to his version, and made the story his own. He does the same with his Histories too. I have no discomfort in knowing this. Similarly when the musical West Side Story borrows from Romeo and Juliet, when Bridgit Jones borrows fro Austen, and a hundred other examples of the same – I do not think this is theft. It is creative use of another’s ideas, or characters, or plots.
I do not think Yann Martell reading a review of a book about a boy in a boat alone with an escaped tiger and then him writing Life of Pi is illegitimate use of another’s ideas.
With Mondays Smell of Burnt Toast, there is so much about the story that is different from Tania’s: the characters (not just the central character but ALL of them), the settings (aside from the opening setting of the hospital – and even there my hospital is different from TH’s), the plot (as opposed to the plot structure), the theme, the language. I think the stories are different and have similarities. I do not think there is anything illegal here, and I don’t think there is anything illegitimate. (BTW I think this answers your question two, for my language is never stolen, never a close imitation of another's, but is always my own. I think there is something original in my work. It is not the lighting strike or the reverse chronology - they are not even original to TH. It is all the other stuff I have pointed to, the differences).
If the structure of a story was something that could be protected and others prevented from using the same or a similar structure; if ideas could be protected in the same way; if literature and art could not reference other works or could not be used as a springboard for new works, then how much poorer would culture be? We wouldn’t have, for example, Golding’s Lord of the Flies, which is in large part a response to Ransome’s ‘Swallows and Amazons’.... so many things we would not have!
My stories have not adversely affected the recognition, sales or income of the two writers I am accused of plagiarising. Indeed, since this debate has raged for a year I could probable make the case that it has helped promote further sales of their works. So what is everyone all hot and bothered about here? And that is a question that you need to answer, Doug Cheadle, for what YOU have done is actually and unequivocally illegal and if I really knew who you were then I could seek legal help in stopping what you are doing here with my work. That is not plagiarism, but it is copyright infringement. It is also likely to be seen as an act of malicious intent and as such I could take legal action against you for that.
I don’t expect that you will post this. I will copy it onto my blog if you do not so it can be read.
People in this long drawn out debate have said before that they are trying to help me, when in reality that have been only trying to trip me up and then do me more harm.
ReplyDeleteDouglas, perhaps people HAVE been trying to help you, and still are, but you're too wrapped up in your own outrage to recognise it.
I think there are obvious examples of plagiarism where chunks of one writer’s work have been lifted wholesale and used in another’s work. I am not sure what I really feel about this, though it has never been anything I have been tempted to do.
But you agree that if a writer lifts a chunk of another writer's text then it's plagiarism. We're getting somewhere, at last.
I think Shakespeare using other sources (texts) to write Romeo and Juliet, keeping pretty closely to the original story with many of the very same characters, is not plagiarism. He has taken material and used his own language, and added something vital to his version, and made the story his own. He does the same with his Histories too. I have no discomfort in knowing this. Similarly when the musical West Side Story borrows from Romeo and Juliet, when Bridgit Jones borrows fro Austen, and a hundred other examples of the same – I do not think this is theft. It is creative use of another’s ideas, or characters, or plots.
I've just found this delightful little nugget from last year, where you objected to someone else making a creative use of your ideas, characters and plots. Can you explain to me why you find it acceptable for you to do that to other people, but rail against it whenever anyone else does that to you, even when working collaboratively with other people?
But I digress. Your points about Shakespeare et al aren't pertinent to this discussion. Shakespeare was writing centuries ago, when rules, morals and the publishing business were all different; and both Austen and Shakespeare are now out of copyright, and so different rules apply.
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With Mondays Smell of Burnt Toast, there is so much about the story that is different from Tania’s: the characters (not just the central character but ALL of them), the settings (aside from the opening setting of the hospital – and even there my hospital is different from TH’s), the plot (as opposed to the plot structure), the theme, the language. I think the stories are different and have similarities. I do not think there is anything illegal here, and I don’t think there is anything illegitimate.
ReplyDeleteAnd here we differ, but I think I'm beginning to understand why. Indulge me, Douglas.
You obviously wrote "Mondays Smell" (sorry, couldn't resist that) very thoughtfully. You put a lot of effort into writing that story, and in editing it, and in working out your new plot twists and characters and story lines. Now when you look at it you remember all that effort on an intellectual, emotional and almost visceral level and know the story is yours, and yours alone, on all those levels. Hence your outrage and upset when people accuse you of plagiarism.
The trouble is that no one else sees all that effort you put in. They didn't write the story with you and so they're not aware of the sweat that flooded off your brow, the emotional wrestling you went through to craft it as carefully as you did. And so all they have to go on, when they read the story and try to decide whether it's your original work or your plagiarised version of Tania's, is what's in front of them: the story itself.
When I read the two stories side by side all I see are the similarities. The differences you refer to are all so much smaller than the similarities that what I find most striking are the points at which the stories coexist. Which is why it looks like plagiarism to me. I understand that a couple of lawyers who specialise in this sort of thing have been consulted, and they also agree that it's plagiarism. I think you'd be wise to consider that very carefully.
(BTW I think this answers your question two, for my language is never stolen, never a close imitation of another's, but is always my own. I think there is something original in my work. It is not the lighting strike or the reverse chronology - they are not even original to TH. It is all the other stuff I have pointed to, the differences)
No, it doesn't answer my question two at all. I asked you to explain 'how the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work" is considered plagiarism except when you do it.' And you've made no attempt to address that question at all.
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if literature and art could not reference other works or could not be used as a springboard for new works, then how much poorer would culture be?
ReplyDeleteI agree our culture would be much poorer if literature didn't build on what went before. But that's not what we're talking about here, Douglas. We're talking about plagiarism, which is an entirely different affair. I can understand why you're perhaps keen to distract us from discussing it but I'm not going to allow you to get away with it here.
My stories have not adversely affected the recognition, sales or income of the two writers I am accused of plagiarising.
I read somewhere that for a long time after your plagiarism was discovered Tania Hershman was unable to write at all because she was so wounded by it. That's bound to have affected her in the ways you insist it hasn't.
... for what YOU have done is actually and unequivocally illegal and if I really knew who you were then I could seek legal help in stopping what you are doing here with my work. That is not plagiarism, but it is copyright infringement. It is also likely to be seen as an act of malicious intent and as such I could take legal action against you for that.
Could you, though, Douglas? There's a very good argument to be made that as you plagiarised the stories then it's not your copyright I've infringed here but Tania Hershman and Paul Auster's. If indeed I have infringed anyone's copyright at all.
If pressed I could even argue that "I do not think this is theft. It is creative use of another’s ideas, or characters, or plots." After all, if that explanation works for you, then you can't reasonably object to me using it too.
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I don’t expect that you will post this. I will copy it onto my blog if you do not so it can be read.
ReplyDeleteAu contraire, mon ami. I have posted it, much as I've posted just about every other one of your comments here: the only ones I've not posted are ones in which you make unfounded attacks on people. And that's despite you including that little attack on me at the end. I'm prepared to take that one on the chin for the sake of transparency, even though I disagree with you strongly on the matter. However, I notice that you've not approved ANY of the comments I left on your blog this week. You've misrepresented me there, and you've libelled me and Jane Smith again.
Now I can't speak for Jane: I don't know her, much as I'd like to. But my opinion of all of the defamatory posts you've put up on your own blog is this.
They're harming no one but you.
Really: I read through it all just now and I ended up laughing out loud. In your attempts to discredit me, and Jane, and everyone else who has spoken out against you all you've done is made yourself look foolish, obsessive, spiteful and ill-informed.
You might want to consider that, too.
I hoped someone else would point this out, but since they're not going to, it falls to me.
ReplyDeleteThere's a 'report abuse' button at the top of the page, which takes you to a page of links, one covering what to do in the event of breach of copyright.
The question I want to ask is why Douglas Bruton doesn't do that, when there is a clear case of copyright abuse going on here?
You have made no further comments to my blog, this week or any week. I have one comment waiting approval from someone called david watts, a student who supports me but has nothing relevent to say. Aside from that I have only ever blocked one comment and that was way back and from jane Smith - only one ever.
ReplyDeleteI do not see hundreds of people saying my story is an example of plagiarism. I see this site and a smattering of anonymous comments here... even the ones with names on are actually not linked to anything so must be anonymous. And I see you controlling everything that goes up here.
I can accept that you think this is plagiarism. But it isn't and just because Jane Smith says she has shown lawyers my stories, doesn't mean that she has.
You helped Jane in calling me William Shears and that is not a truth and has been proved beyond doubt to be untrue. So I do not believe that she has shown any lawyers my work, or that they have taken the time to read the works, or that they have called it plagiarism. (And I dont see you defending what you said about IP addresses and William Shears and Douglas Bruton).
You reference an incident on Greyling Bay where I objected to what a contributor had done with my character. This is where I think you might be Jane Smith. If you read my comments properly you will know that I am completely happy with people using my characters and my plots; so long as they do not use my words. In the Greyling Bay example I was objecting to what the person was doing in the collaboration because I had already stated what was going to happen to my character (something we were encouraged to do by the rules of the collaboration, to state if we did not want others to take our characters down a different track!) And this person was taking my character down a track that was the opposite of what I had stated.
I have not taken TH's words, language. I have used some of her ideas to tell my story. That is not plagiarism and IS an answer to your number two question.
You dismiss out of hand all my points about how writers of great literature have worked, dismissed them with your they don't count, the rules have changed since then. The rules of how the creative imagination works have not changed. And the rules of what is allowed in creative borrowing have not changed as much as you would think. A review of some modern 'plagiarism' cases show that textual copying is more firmly attacked, whereas in the realm of ideas few cases make it to court, precisely because it is absurd to charge a writer with theft of ideas in this way.
And please do not refer to me as Ami... you are not my friend and there is nothing friendly in what you are doing here.
Doug, I think this has all gone on long enough. You've made your point, people who were interested have been able to read Bruton's stories and make up their own mind about the plagiarism issue: and nothing about this discussion is changing Bruton's mind about whether or not he plagiarised anyone.
ReplyDeleteAll this blog is achieving, along with the discussions which have resulted from it, is to stir up more and more unpleasantness and anger, and it's doing no good. If I were you I'd delete this blog and move on, and let Bruton find something else to be angry about.
And just for the record I have been completely honest about Bruton's and Shears's IP addresses. They've both (if indeed they are two people) insisted I lied about them: I didn't. Not once.
Douglas, I know I left several comments on your blog which haven't appeared; you say I haven't. It's your word against mine, isn't it? But I think that other people have also tried to leave comments there which you've not approved, so you're on pretty shaky ground.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I did dismiss your examples because they don't apply: come up with some which are pertinent to this discussion and I'll be thrilled.